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Monday, January 21, 2013

Friday, January 18, 2013

NZAR # 378 Webley RIC No 1 Revolver


NZART ID:378,   Arm Type: Pistol,            Date of Draft: (V1) 15 January 2013,       Compiled by: Phil Cregeen
Pattern:  Revolver, Webley  RIC No 1 & No 1 New Model, Introduced in to NZ Service: 1870, Withdrawn: End of WWII
Maker: P Webley & Son, Weaman Street, Birmingham. Also copied by the English, Belgium and French gun trade.
Calibres: .442”, .450”, .476”, 320”, 380”,   Bore:  5 groove RH twist.   Barrel length: 4.5 in., OA Length: 9.0 in.      
Type of Action: Solid frame, double action, six shot,   Weight: 1 lb 14 oz.
Sights: foresight blade & U groove in frame,       Ammunition: .476  lead bullet 265 grain and 18 grains black powder

RIC No 1 First Pattern

                   
                                                               RIC No 1 Second Pattern                                                                             

Introduced in 1867 this revolver was adopted the following year by the Royal Irish Constabulary (RIC) and from then on was known as the RIC model. It was purchased by many colonial police forces and became famous all over the world and remained in production for nearly 60 years. A 6 shot solid frame revolver with 4.5 inch ovate barrel, plain cylinder, side loading gate and swivel ejector rod on the RHS and one piece walnut grip with lanyard ring. It was initially made in .442 calibre, but also later in a range of British (.320 to .476)   and American calibres (.45 Colt and .44 UMC).   On the first pattern of RIC the ejector rod was housed in a collar that swivelled around the barrel, in the late 1870s this was changed to a swivel screwed to the front of the frame and the rod has an acorn shaped end, this became the Second Pattern.  A further change was introduced in 1881 with the adoption of the Enfield Mk II cartridge (.476), this included a fluted chamber and was designated RIC No 1 New Model.

                                                               RIC No 1 New Model    
                       
Markings: Typically marked on the LHS of the frame with Webley Logo, Webley RIC No 1, calibre and serial No.
New Zealand service: RIC revolvers were purchased privately by some Officers and NCOs and also by Police Forces in New Zealand.  For military service they would have been in .450, .455/.476 calibre to take service ammunition, for Police service often smaller calibres were used. RIC revolvers were never officially adopted for military service although they were called up for the Home Guard in WW II.

Acknowledgements: John Osborne
Reference:                Webley Revolvers by G Bruce & C Reinhart

Thursday, January 3, 2013

NZAR # 377 Luger P 08 Pistol



NZAR # 377, ARM TYPE: Pistol. Draft date (V1) 30 Dec 2012, Compiled by John Osborne AA DTT PhD FSG,
Pattern: Luger P1908. Caliber: 9mm HP. Introduced: RNZAF 1942. Withdrawn: after WWII

Specifications: Maker: Deutsche Waffen- und Munitionsfabriken (DWM) & others. Barrel: 95mm Caliber: 9x19mm, Range 50m. Action: toggle-locked recoil-operated semi-automatic pistol.  Fixed rear sight and vee foresight. Magazine: 8 round detachable. Butt machined for shoulder stock Muzzle velocity: 350 m/s. Weight: .871Kg. The Luger is well known, its use by Germans during World War I & World War II










New Zealand Service: In 1942 the P08 Lugers held in NZ Government stores were issued to RNZAF officers in the Aerodrome Defence Squadrons, order 7B/N20- Pistols Luger 1 per officer and order 12C/N20 – Small Arms Ammunition 9mm, 48 rounds per Luger Pistol.
Captured P08 Lugers were carried unofficially and used by some NZ Service personal during WWI and WWII. At the end of WWI many captured Lugers were repatriated to New Zealand both officially and by returning individual servicemen, many of these Lugers were surrendered under amnesty (and held in NZ Government store) following the 1920 Arms Act which introduced universal firearms registration and outlawed the civilian possession of machine guns, machine carbines and 'semi-automatic pistols' as well as ammunition for such arms. The outcome of the 1920 Act was the 'disappearance' of large numbers of pistols and revolvers. Many of these did not resurface until after the 1983 Arms Act which permitted their lawful possession - although in limited circumstances.

                        

Acknowledgements and special thanks to:   NZ National Achieves Military Records.   Osborne Arms Museum armsmuseum@xtra.co.nz ,Phil Cregeen.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luger_pistol

Tuesday, January 1, 2013

NZAR # 7 Snider Enfield Rifle (abridged)


NZAR: 7,  Arm Type: Rifle,  Date of Draft: (V1) 16 September 2012,Compiled by: Phil Cregeen
Pattern: 1866 Snider Enfield Rifle(Snider Long Rifle/3 band Snider) Introduced to NZ Service:1868, Withdrawn: 1907 Makers: Enfield; Tower; London Armoury Co; also Leige
Calibre: .577 in, 25 bore, Bore: 3 groove uniform or progressive depth rifling RH twist 1 turn in 78 in.,
Barrel length: 36.5 in. OA Length: 54.2 in. Weight: 9 lb 4 oz. (4.2 kg)
Type of Action: Snider breech loading, single shot           
Magazine:  None,  Sights: rear sight bed to 400, leaf to 950 yds., foresight barleycorn on fixed block.
Bayonet:  Pat 1853 Socket. (NZAR # 58)

Following Ordnance Board trials in the period 1864 to 66 to determine a suitable method of converting the large stocks of Pattern 1853 Enfield Rifles to breech loader, the invention of Jacob Snider was chosen together with the centre fire cartridge developed by Col. Boxer.  This in its final form involved cutting off the breech end of the barrel and replacing it with a shoe containing a hinged breech block with firing pin that swung open to the right and include an ejector claw, the shoe being screwed into the rear end of the original barrel.  The conversion was announced in LOC 1327 dated 18 September 1866 with the ammunition by LOC 1328 dated 20 August 1866 and was generally applied to the 4th Type or model of the Pat 53 with Baddeley barrel bands.  The conversion quickly progressed from Mk I to Mk I* (squared rim to cartridge), Mk II* and Mk II** (larger breech block & cupped hammer) leading to the Mk III introduced by LOC 1759 dated 13 Jan 1869 which included a breech block locking bolt, and steel instead of iron barrel, these Mk III rifles were made new rather than conversions.(1)  

New Zealand Service The first Snider rifles to see service in New Zealand were issued to a detachment of the 18th Royal Irish Regiment of Foot bound for Wellington in March 1868 and to those serving at Napier by May 1868. (2)  According to the Evening Post of the 23 November 1868 they appear to have been used on the range for the first time in November of that year.
In the Colonial Government arms return of 26 August 1869 there were no Sniders owned by the Colony, however it was reported that 500 Hay medium rifles had been sent to England for conversion in February of that year. By September of the same year 1,900 Snider Rifles had been received from British Stores, although many were exchanged later for short rifles and carbines. In December 1869 the Wanganui Herald reported 50 picked men armed with Snider rifles had been sent from Wellington to Taupo to help combat the Hoa hoa uprising.
By 1875 the snider rifle was on more general issue to Volunteer forces within the colony and by 1879 there were 696 on issue or in store, increasing to 1049 by 1892. From 1890 onwards the snider was gradually replaced by the Martini Henry (1895), Martini Enfield (1898) and Lee Enfield (1901), however some Volunteer Rifles corps were still armed with the snider as late at 1902 and in the 1905 arms return 920 are shown still on issue in the colony.
In 1907 7,000 snider rifles (long, medium and short rifles) were sold to an English firm and shipped to England.
  
Acknowledgements:       Information and photos-John Osborne, Phil Cregeen,
References:                 (1) 577 Pattern 1853 Rifle Musket & Snider-Enfield by I D Skennerton

 Observed NZ marked Snider Rifles 
NZ Marked
Arm
NZ Marked
Maker
Dated
Snider 3 band
NZ 165
Enfield
1864
Snider 3 band Mk II**
NZ S 1104
Enfield
1865
Snider 3 band Mk II
N^Z 1743 S
LAC
1861
Snider 3 band Mk II
NZ S 1229
Enfield
1861
Snider 3 band Mk II**
NZ 1399
Enfield
1861
Snider 3 band Mk II**
NZ S 1096
Enfield
1859
Snider 3 band Mk III
A NZ 80
J Rigby Dublin
Snider 3 Band Mk III
NZ 264-50-3106
Tower
1855